Tom McTague

And I think that's not something we've seen before.

And it's kind of in some of Tom McTague's interviews with Andy Burnham, this has really come out that he really feels he is the only person who can do this.

And it's this weird, like, I'm going to be this, like, saviour of the nation.

And I think that is definitely a moment where you can see the thinking is kind of like, oh, goodness, this might not do what I want it to do and bring down bills.

And Mahmood explains why.

So she was interviewed by The Spectator's Tom McTague.

Not Spectator, New Statesman, bother.

I've got an article coming out in the New Statesman soon where I've been interviewed about Restore Britain and Reform, actually, so I'll cover that on the channel.

So her loyalty is not to us, which is why she's bringing in more of the people she's actually loyal to, has solidarity with, using her position as Home Secretary.

And everyone that was cheerleading for Shabana Mahmood is a fucking retard.

And this is why it's additionally obscene for Tom McTague to ask, "Are you actually a Scrutonian conservative?" Which is something, genuinely, that if Mahmood sat down with Tim Stanley or, or Jacob Rees-Mogg, they would probably ask her too.

She sat down with Michael Gove, actually, when she was Justice Secretary, and he asked her basically the same thing.

I'm Anousheh Kellyan, and this is The Politics Show from The New Statesman.

And I'm joined by our political correspondent, Ethan Croft, and our editor-in-chief, Tom McTague.

Hello, both of you.

Hello.

I think that's all we have time for.

Thank you so much, both of you.

You've been listening to The Politics Show from The New Statesman with me, Anoush Shakelian, and my colleagues, Ethan Croft and Tom McTague.

This episode was produced by Rob Lemaire and Biba Kang.

So I don't think that we're actively seeking to rehabilitate Enoch Powell, but I think it is the case that people are, uh, interested in the influence of political thinkers from, uh, the '60s, '70s, and '80s, and th- two things.

One, um, my friend and rival, Tom McTague, who's the editor of the New Statesman, uh, wrote a very, very good book about Britain's relationship with Europe called Between the Waves, and in it, he takes Powell very seriously, and he's unsparing in his criticism of what he sees as Powell's opportunism and nativism, but he's also very interested in Powell's ideas.

Um, what we did at The Spectator was, um, run a piece by Simon Heffer, uh, whose original biography of Powell, like the Roman, was published, uh, more than a decade ago.

It's been reprinted, and, uh, Simon reflected on Powell's legacy.

I think it's a great read and reveals a lot about what Labour are thinking and doing.

And in the conference special this week, the editor, Tom McTague, has written a really good piece interviewing Andy Burnham, talking about the Prime Minister, his life, fate and destiny.

what his plan for Britain is.

And I'd read it before his speech and thought, okay, that's interesting.