That's what I was saying.

It's man oh and man, oh man.

They may block you, they may knock you back.

They, you may stalemate them.

Who knows what happens, you know? But when it's like that and all you gotta do is beat one guy to the corner or beat an inside block and, and it's, you're not gonna beat me to the sideline, I don't like those plays, man.

Go north-south, hit them quick.

Oh, yeah.

Like just to walk in and I'd go by myself, too.

win them

all if you don't win the first.

That's right.

That's right.

Yeah, great outing, man.

You know, look, it's the Browns.

They stink.

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What has stood out to you about the offense so far in camp?

Well, the O-line being banged up is one.

You know, that sucks.

You know, you want all your guys out there.

So that's been noticeable.

I think with Milam and Monheim, the amount of time they've been getting has been interesting on the right side of that line.

You know, I think overall the offense, look, we don't know about the running game yet.

Tommy, what's the biggest difference between a joint practice and an actual preseason game?

What have you seen in that regard?

Yeah, I mean, listen, that's where it gets tricky, right? Because there was, like, there was a touchdown pass in the red zone drill, and he definitely would have been sacked.

There was no question about it.

But, you know, those are the things you just don't know, right? And remember, last year the O-line couldn't block anybody.

I mean, in practice it felt like, especially our edge guys.

So, no, listen, I think overall Trev and the O-line, you're going to – Look, again, like you said, it's not full pads.

So O-linemen aren't finishing.

On the defensive side, yesterday Liam Cohen had some high praise for Eric Murray, and I think we kind of sometimes get caught up in the flashier safeties, the ball hawk types, but is Murray still in your mind kind of the key, the glue to that entire secondary going into his second year?

What do you make of the lack of activity the Jaguars had this offseason?

To be honest, I think a lot of fans are a little disappointed that there wasn't a big splash or a big name added to the roster.

However, this is their strategy, at least for this year.

Last year, they spent a lot of money.

They brought in guys that they had to bring in.

et cetera, et cetera.

This year is more about filling in those grunt players.

I mean, what is your thought on who is going to replace Devin Lloyd?

Tommy, have you ever been to Hammond or Indiana, for that matter?

I have been to Indiana.

You know, I grew up outside of Chicago.

You know what town I was born in? Arlington Heights, Illinois, where the proposed stadium is supposed to go.

We used to go to the Arlington track.

It was a great horse track.

Fridays, dollar beers, go bet on horses.

and won, just kind