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Tom Madine

Tom Madine

Aug 4, 2026

55:47
Yeah
55:47
... we spent on NASCAR.
55:48
But then all of a sudden it's sort of like, okay, you get the bus- the, the cost right, and you get the organization right, and you have to, you have to critically look at the organization like you would any team, and say, "Hey, I'm investing X in this group.
55:59
What am I getting out of it?" And it forces you...
56:01
I think it's a good, it's a healthy period for...
56:03
while it sucks, it's a healthy period for you, for you to look at your business and say, "Well, why do I spend all this money on insert whatever group is?" And you say, "Well, I'm getting nothing out of it," right? Well, the textbook says you should have that.
56:16
It's like, well, fuck, the, the textbook's wrong.

33 MINS LATER

89:13
Um, I'm curious, like, what at this point keeps you up at night? Like, if, and, and if not literally but more, like, metaphorically as you think about, um, where you're going with this business, like, what is it that worries you, uh, about the coming months and years?

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