Getting ahead of the data.

And that didn't completely resolve, but by the early 1990s, there had been at least understanding that clearly precautionary principle, which is about being appropriately conservative, that if you ever are unsure, always lean towards what natural systems are like, right? At least that's, in this context, the way you could define the precautionary principle, that protecting connectivity makes more sense.

than allowing ecosystems to become fragmented.

That's the core argument that Reid made in response to Simberloff and Cox, which was one of the papers about corridors and being skeptical about it.

At that same time, the Thousand Friends of Florida deserves a lot of credit.

A colleague named Mark Benedict, who was a PhD, was working for Thousand Friends of Florida, and they started a Greenways program.

Just Thousand Friends of Florida did.

Oh, that would be great.