What's Cisco's, I guess, commitment to Sonic? And where does Cisco stand?

Yeah, let me answer that sharply.

We think Sonic is super important.

We're very committed to it.

We have many customers that are buying Sonic-based systems from us, and that's going to continue in the future.

So no hesitation around that.

Now, coming back to the points that you raised, I think it's useful to understand why we like Sonic.

So essentially like, you know, extending the trust, you know, uh, to the workloads, you know, you know, how do we, how do we, how do we provide guidance for them to kind of like deal with that?

like- Leave it there as long as you possibly can.

Exactly, for like ever, right? So like, you know, literally every couple of years, you're like, okay, I'm going to have to update this thing when you have to.

And now in this post-Methos world, it's not unreasonable.

It's constantly evolving.

Exactly, right? Now, these concepts are not radical here.

Like in the cloud, that's how it works.

That's how Kubernetes apps works.

Let

What is happening in the industry as it pertains to AI and infrastructure? Give us the macro picture first.

Yeah, sure.

Everyone knows the power of AI.

It's amazing.

The nature of the applications are fundamentally different than applications that we've lived with for decades.

And really, the way to think of it is they're parallel.

So that means that an application doesn't have to fit in a box.

like- Leave it there as long as you possibly can.