yeah that's that's awesome dude

so you know so just growing up and then i met a guy his name was jim and he he was you know booking shows and i said hey can you know i started to think well you know i like these bands that are playing but i want to get some other bands that like like i like to come to this area So I got some contact just from meeting people at shows in DC and Philly got numbers.

And then like I booked the first show I booked was late 87 and it was American standard shades apart in my band.

And then from, and a whole bunch of people came out at the time for, you know, those shows that might've been, I don't know.

In hindsight, it might have only been like probably 80 to 100 people.

But when you're a kid in high school and you're booking your own shows and it's like five bucks or six bucks, whatever it was, and you're up there playing and people are going crazy, it felt like there were like a thousand people there.

And then from there, I just got to know contacts.

And two, like it in being in Florida, like, is that, is that difficult? Or like, do you, I mean, people seem stoked, you know?