Oh.

And I know that for a fact, 'cause I was around him a good bit.

I loved to hear him talk, because he was telling me about these ball games of these big teams, and I'd never heard anything about them before, you know?

Mm-hmm.

They were very close.

She said he didn't have anything to do with it.

And after he passed, any time anybody brought it up, she let 'em know right quick that Joe had nothing to do with that-