It's a whole another thing to do it independently, right? So how was that whole process as far as not only gathering the right crew and the cast, but also being able to put it together where it can fit right into any theater in the country?

Well, thank you.

Yeah.

Well, I mean, man, it's brutal.

That's like the most honest answer.

But it's also if you're doing it with a good crew, the right people.

And just if it's like truly what you, the story you really want to do, it's like really cathartic.

Can you take us back to the day when you kind of got started in film and maybe even further back and when you decided, hey, you know what? This would be a pretty cool career.