But as typical with Ricky, there's lots of... peaks and troughs in it, isn't there, with your

emotions and things like that.

Nice experience.

Apparently you all did it sitting around in a...

I mean, a wonderful experience.

It was...

Because we...

Who came up with that concept, though, the one where it's all filmed through the son's camera? I mean,

How is that different from that instant comedy approach?

It's totally different and kind of mind-blowing.

We did, we did, we...

The first time we saw the sh- the film was in, in Sundance, and I think with a, any kind of new stand-up show, it just starts as a tiny acorn in front of 30 or 40 people and gradually grows, and you gradually work out what works and what doesn't and improve it and get it better and better.

By the end of it, you might be playing to quite a big room, but with complete assurance that everything sort of works.

Whereas with this, we didn't have any screenings at all.

We didn't know what exactly we had.

I think having seen it, you know, experienced it the last few days, I just feel like I, I just, [laughs] I just really want, want everyone to see it that way.

But it's like, I'm proud of this.

Yeah, but I don't know if it's self-absorption as much as you just want to... sort of you just want to focus on the thing that you're working on in a way and once you've done it and you've finished it it's lovely to talk about and it's lovely to sort of see people enjoying it but in a way it can be quite torturous to watch stuff and go oh that could have been a bit better or I could have done that there or I could have you know and I think that's what's funny about when we watch the film now because we've both come from comedy I think it's actually a really good thing that we didn't watch it with audiences at a point where we had the chance to go back into the edit Because I think we'd have put some jokes back in, is the truth.

I think when you watch it with an audience and they start laughing, you go, oh, they would have loved that joke.

And they would have loved that joke that we cut.

And you forget that actually what you're doing is you're crafting a story that's got to be sort of coherent and it's got to have a certain pace and rhythm to it.

And if you start cramming it with jokes because you can tell that the audience likes certain jokes, you unbalance the whole thing.

So actually, I'm very glad that we didn't get the chance to... to fiddle with the film after people had seen

extent hadn't you prepared for that scene?