So yeah, I mean, what was it like growing up in Sutter, Todd?

It's a small town, like you said, where every kid plays every sport when you're growing up.

I know that's changed a lot now where kids get sort of siloed into playing one sport.

But when I was growing up, it was an incumbent upon you to play and immerse yourself into a variety of different sports.

It's how you learn to work with different people from different backgrounds.

uh learn to work as a team in different settings so i you know i i value that sort of upbringing uh in sutter and the community of sutter is is really tight-knit i mean four four thousand people in the town it's very small um very much dissimilar to chico but uh similar in some aspects uh very much focused on on sports as you noted but Yeah, just diving on to sports, I played soccer, football, basketball, and baseball growing up, but soccer- No breaks.

Yeah, no breaks, but soccer and football were probably definitely the two that I would say shaped me the most.

This is the other business, right? Or one of the other businesses, one of the other interests.