Not all patients qualify.

I'm at a phase in my life.

Chloe is my daughter.

Yes.

All intents and purposes, she's my daughter.

This is my time.

As selfishly as some of you may think, I don't personally think I'm selfish.

Yeah,

So when you say that you started seeing her, so you guys were, was it like a sugar baby, sugar mama relationship? Or were you guys like actually dating?

In my mind, we were actually dating.

Okay.

Because I was 18.

Right.

And I remember eight months into this relationship, I was watching the Academy Awards.

And she walks the red carpet with her husband.

actually had embryos, everything.

Yeah.

Why are you coming at me with that? Then you have the nerve to put on a pattern when you're big as a houseboat.

So I just cannot do that shit.

You know that.

That to me...

I'm a lot of things, folks, but a damn hypocrite is not one of them.

You know, that bothered me.

Well.

Megan Thee Stallion

...

Megan Thee Stallion getting her toe blowed off.

And, um, and then I find out because my friend, uh, Chapman Dixon sends me this whole thing, and she said, "You understand that, uh, Megan wants to do an, an assisted living.

She wants to do this, an open trust." She says, "She's really got a lot going on." So Megan, let me say to you that due to my ignorance of not knowing who you are, I may have made light of the fact that you only have nine toes.

I did not mean it that way.

I think that's a horrific situation.

Yeah, those are good.

Oh.

And she said, "And I am going to remove E and Bravo and Oxygen and... from this lineup, because I believe you should be at USA." Well, Greta, I had never watched USA Network.

And I said, "Well, I don't wanna be at USA." I said, "I wanna be at, at E, where Kris Jenner is, you know, with what she's done.

If I'm gonna do this, I wanna do it that way." And, um, she said, "But you're not the Kardashians.

You are your own family, and we believe you're going to resonate better at USA.

And Mr. Chrisley, you need to understand, USA has way more eyeballs on that network than all the others combined." I didn't know that.

And, um, [tsks] she said...

What happened?

Yeah.

With, with the movement that we have going on with the, with the prisons and stuff, I now understand what that dream meant because-When I leave, they will rise.

Well, I have left and now the place is closing.

Now, the new memo has come out that there's going to expand home confinement, that these men are gonna, through a n- a new great director, um, [smacks lips] Billy Marshall and Josh Smith, the deputy director, those have now come out making sure that President Trump's initial initiative, Fr- First Step Act in 2018, that those men and women will now get those credits-

So like, "Get the hell out."

And so, um, well, he came and asked me, he said, "Have you started your book?" And I said, "Uh, no." He said, "Well, I've started working on mine." And I said, "Well, I hope that the first chapter introduces you as the biggest snitch in America."And I said, "So you and I..." S- and I told him about Felicity and Bail and Lori and them, and I said, "I don't wanna ever have another conversation with you." And so he turned around and walked out.

So months later, he was talking shit about Savannah, 'cause that's when she had already started, you know, pulling the Barbara Walters and exposing everything in the BOP.

[laughs]

I think that women have literally, they, that they feel so empowered about this whole, you know, my body, my choice.

Uh, I can make as much as you can make.

We're equal partners in this.

You know, I have my own...

I can do what I wanna do.

You can do what you wanna do, but when you do what you wanna do, then I get to get pissed off about it.

Well, because you were in a happy relationship

Mm-hmm.

Chase is the way that Chase dove down into his therapy.

And I don't want to get too much into it because that's Chase's story to tell.

But the thing that he said to me that was so pivotal was he said, I had to really dig deep to realize that it was my fault.

He said, the harder I dug, the deeper I dug, the more I realized that I was the common denominator here.

And he said, I just had to own it.

And he says, and once I owned it and he says, and when you told me dad getting off of our plane, he said, when you say it, son, there is no shame in a man getting help.

So that's what good girl

Mm.

My dad, I lost him in July of 2012.

And then we find out in the midst of all of this that my business partner had embezzled all this money.

He had forged our name to, I think, the, I think the number was up to, like, 28,000 signatures that he had signed mine and Julie's name to.

And I wanted to talk about it on the show of Chrisley Knows Best because I wanted the world to go along with this, to understand what was happening to us, but we couldn't talk about it.

So we had to keep that inside of us every day, filming a show.

And you know, we did 26 episodes a season.

Mm.

Is that something kind of like what you're doing for...?

I actually work alongside the director, Billy Marshall, with the Bureau of Prisons.

He's the director.

Um, and I work with Josh Smith, who is the deputy director, and Rick Stover, who is over FSA, which stands for the First Step Act that President Trump signed in 2018.

Um, and the First Step Act, Tamra, works and is a, is a great thing because it allows you to reduce your sentence by 50% as long as you're programming, educating yourself, you know-

Mm-hmm.

And they don't know whether to scratch their watch or wind their ass.

And they're government workers, they take advantage of that because, you know, they feel like that they're part of a union, they can't be fired, so therefore they don't have to do anything.

You just want to spend all the time together.

Well, you know, you know, we are 57 and 52.

So, you know, yes, we enjoyed that, you know, that being able to be with each other and, you know, go to bed with each other at night, wake up with each other and, you know, Julie back in the kitchen and getting back into our routine.

But I think that for me, I think for me, I want to focus more now on what we're doing going forward as a couple, you know, because, you know, we do have the new show coming out with our entire family, the new reality show.

And so we start with that for 2026.

And we've got other shows that Judy's got a cooking show that she starts filming next month.

And then I'm doing another show with Chase.

to make up for lost time.

And then the more I thought about

it, we had like 15 or 20 other offers since we got home and all just coming in.

And I said no to everything because Brian, I was just in a place to where I felt safe again.

I'm in home.

I'm with Julie.

And I was comfortable again.

And I didn't want anything to interfere with that.

Yeah.