Now that we've sort of set the stage here from a history lesson point of view, what were the early cohort's like here? Were they diverse? Were they like-minded people? Were they self-selecting humanists in training?

It's a great question.

And I'm still going through a lot of the historical records.

But, you know, one of the early premises for the Institute was that business really drives culture.

It responds to culture, but it drives culture.

Business has, as they saw it, an outsized institutional responsibility through creating jobs, through creating shaping, helping shape government regulation to even thinking about the environmental impact of what it is that they do.

So there was a very long time horizon as they were thinking about the kinds of people that they would invite.

what are the load-bearing elements of the seminar experience? And if someone's not lucky enough to be here or is looking to create a series of challenging but necessary cross-functional conversations in their own organization, how would you advise them?