Um, but I was thinking, Todd, what's something that you did to be authentic to yourself, even though you know you knew that your community might not like it and might have met you with resistance?

Yeah.

So there were probably a couple of things.

Um, in the LDS church, uh, going on a mission can be a pretty transformational part of someone's kind of personality and, you know, emotional, social development.

You kind of go at a time when, uh, that are analogous to developmental mi- milestones.

So a mission can be pretty, um, important developmentally for a lot of people.

I went when I was much older, and that was on purpose because I felt that there were certain things that I didn't want to do or be a part of unless I was really on board.

So I guess, like, I'm wondering if there's a moment, either from your own life or from a client interaction or something, that stands out as, um, really seeing somebody face that type of a choice to define a self under pressure.