It has its own edginess to it, like there's a bunch of ASCII art and hard-hitting articles, and it was TMZ here who co-founded TempOut.

So TempOut is a group that, uh, is a research group that we formed maybe five years ago now.

Uh, we started as an IRC, as three people.

We just wanted to, like, uh, research, uh, ELF infection techniques, so Linux viruses and things like this.

We thought it was, like, a very niche, uh, area that we had, like, uh, people in common that wanted to do that, and so we kind of, you know, brainstormed a little bit.

And then more people were joining, and then eventually we had, like, a Discord channel.

There's, like, 1,500 people there now.

Yeah, tell us about the future.