And did you stay at the time when you were on Martha's Vineyard? Were you thinking, this is something I want to do? Or did professionally, did you think you'd have a bakery someday?

I actually was immersed myself in that work because when I got there, I had actually...

Very little knowledge.

I got the job and I was shocked because I was so young.

I was only 19.

And I got the job and I had been a little bit involved in the bakery, but certainly not to run a bakery where there were over 400 club members.

And the regattas were sometimes up to 600 kids.

So your bakery has been called the Skinny Goose