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So a- a- anyhow, uh, one night our, uh, our drummer was sick, so somebody knew a drummer in the band The Premiers, and he said he'd sit in with us, and his name was Gary Coates.

And, uh, he watched me all night, and I, I could not understand why he was watching me so much.

But, uh, I, you know, the, the, the gig was over.

I, I paid him for coming and thanked him for helping us out.

Well, go to, like, into the next week, like, on a, I don't know, Wednesday night or so, he calls me and he says, "Uh, our rhythm guitar player is leaving the band." And he said, "Would you like to try out with The Premiers?" And I was like, That was my favorite band in the area, and I was like, "Uh, yes, when, w- you know, when, when do you wanna get together?" So we got together and it clicked.

We weren't playing that often, but w- every Friday night we played at the Old Barn on South Avenue.

Yeah.