Hello,

I'm here with Tina Coleman.

Right? Yep.

My name's forgot.

Yeah.

I would say creator.

Mm-hmm.

god jesus holy spirit yeah kind of the traditional ones okay oftentimes i use god or i use creator as an overarching theme and then sometimes i will ask the spirit for guidance or jesus to be with me because there's a certain visual tangible element there whereas god is just overarching

Mm.

Um, so that, that wouldn't make anybody very happy, and she was not the happiest person to start with.

So, but it was really hard because something I explore in my book is the bond between a mother and her daughter, because there is something that happens when you lose your mother.

That is the person that made you.

That is the person that brought you into the world.

So on a cellular level, you feel it.

And I was really surprised because I'm a lot like her, so much like her, that even at the funeral, people were like, "Oh." People that hadn't seen me since I was, like, 5, they're like, "You're Marilyn's daughter." I'm like, "Yes, I am." Um, because I just look so much like her, and I have so many of her mannerisms.

Yeah.