Do you make the determination right away when you see them, or do you mold them and steer them a certain way?

Well, I think that everybody is on a case-to-case basis.

The one thing that you do have to overcome is the fear of stepping into a boxing gym.

So I never want to make anybody feel like they have to do something that they don't want to do.

I stress to people when they come in that you only should do what you feel like you can do.

And the reason why I can say that is because boxing is this awesome exercise tool that just elevates you on its own.

Um, you'll come in here your first week, not being able to do anything, but then the next week you'll totally look like a different person.

But again, it's what you love it's what your passion is and and you're lucky enough to get paid for it you you love what you do you love your passion of it but let's let's turn a little bit because not only is Tim Witherspoon the boxer the trainer the mentor you also not only got your your your accreditation from Bucks County Community College you finished school but now you went to school board you you you you your head in the lion's mouth right there with bristol towns of school board and from someone that grew up like you know we i was born in bristol borough but we lived in bristol township my dad was on uh zoning board and you know my my uncle was the mayor of bristol township that's a lion's den in itself you know and and but school and especially school board what made your decision like okay this is something else i need to do