Where do you usually get to speak to them in the context of a trial? Are they early witnesses or?

Well, the- the first thing I'd say is i- in most, certainly in most murders, you'll have an opportunity to cross-examine key witnesses at a preliminary hearing, and it's very common, I won't say it's, um, universal, but it's very, very common to have forensic pathologists as being one of the witnesses who you would want to cross-examine at that early stage precisely because their evidence is so pivotal in establishing things like causation, um, intent.

So that's often where I will get a chance to, uh, lay the groundwork.

And typically, most of my preparation, most of the heavy lifting is gonna be done in the lead-up to that preliminary cross-examination because ideally I want to know everything that the forensic pathologist is going to say that's gonna be useful to my case at that early stage.

Um, in terms of the trial itself, yeah, generally speaking, a forensic pathologist would be one of the earlier witnesses, and that's, well, it's a matter for the prosecution in terms of how they want to structure their case.

But it's usually quite natural to begin with, um, the crime scene itself and to sort of work your way out towards witnesses that impact directly on the death.

So often a foreig- forensic pathologist is called quite early in that process.

Yeah.

Where do you usually get to speak to them in the context of a trial? Are they early witnesses or?

Well, the, the first thing I'd say is i- in most, certainly in most murders, you'll have an opportunity to cross-examine key witnesses at a preliminary hearing.

And it's very common, I won't say it's, um, universal, but it's very, very common to have forensic pathologists as being one of the witnesses who you would want to cross-examine at that early stage precisely because their evidence is so pivotal in establishing things like causation, um, intent.

So that's often where I will get a chance to, uh, lay the groundwork.

And typically, most of my preparation, most of the heavy lifting is gonna be done in the lead-up to that preliminary cross-examination because ideally I want to know everything that the forensic pathologist is going to say that's gonna be useful to my case at that early stage.

Um, in terms of the trial itself, yeah, generally speaking, a forensic pathologist would be one of the earlier witnesses, and that's, well, that's a matter for the prosecution in terms of how they want to structure their case.

But it's usually quite natural to begin with, um, the crime scene itself and to sort of work your way out towards witnesses that impact directly on the death.

Yeah.