What's it like being on the inside of a situation like that, like the aftermath of it?

It really caught me by surprise.

It caught everyone by surprise, honestly.

It was really weird.

Because it seemed like COVID had given a lot of a lot of schools, athletic departments justification to cut their programs, even though they were part of the inception of when the schools were around, they were like the longest running sports.

Our team was obviously like top 25.

So it just didn't quite make sense to cut the program.

So what were these conversations like? Like what were your options that you were looking at?

What's it like being on the inside of a situation like that, like the aftermath of it?

It really caught me by surprise.

It caught everyone by surprise, honestly.

It was really weird.

Because it seemed like COVID had given a lot of a lot of schools athletic departments um justification to cut their programs even though they were part of the inception of when the schools were around they were like the longest running sports our team was obviously like top 25 so it just didn't quite make sense to cut the program in the aftermath it kind of left uh something unfulfilled in me so Like for me, it was ending the year.

It was almost like, is this goodbye to wrestling? Because I honestly wanted to keep wrestling with Old Dominion and be part of the system and go through the freestyle.

Because I hadn't quite finished it on the mat for folk style.

So what were these conversations like? Like what were your options that you were looking at?