Can you talk a little bit about how someone might inadvertently end up in these spaces?

The difficulty in answering the question about algorithms is that the algorithms are always changing and the preferred platforms are always changing.

What I can do is tell you that at base, pretty much every social media platform these days is optimized for engagement.

And what that means is that if something gets people to interact with it in some way, then it gets shown to more people.

Crucially, that is sentiment neutral.

And what I mean by that is whether you comment on it because you like it or you comment on it because you hate it, the effect is the same.

It gets shown to more people.

So in your research around radicalization and I guess slash de-radicalization, what works in terms of kind of having these conversations effectively? Because again, like we talked a little bit about, you know, you can't really pull somebody out, but are there good places to start the conversation or open the conversation in a way that feels safe, that feels accessible? Yeah.

Can you talk a little bit about how someone might inadvertently end up in these spaces?

The difficulty in answering the question about algorithms is that the algorithms are always changing and the preferred platforms are always changing.

What I can do is tell you that at base, pretty much every social media platform these days is optimized for engagement.

And what that means is that if something gets people to interact with it in some way, then it gets shown to more people.

Crucially, that is sentiment neutral.

And what I mean by that is whether you comment on it because you like it or you comment on it because you hate it, the effect is the same.

It gets shown to more people.

So in your research around radicalization and I guess slash de-radicalization, what works in terms of kind of having these conversations effectively? Because again, like we talked a little bit about, you know, you can't really pull somebody out, but are there good places to start the conversation or open the conversation in a way that feels safe, that feels accessible? Yeah.