It's not an, not an awful place to be.

Yeah.

You know, somebody who is-- We need models.

We have to see.

We can't do what we've never done, so we need to see it play out for us to even know what to dream, how to imagine.

That's why the idea of mentors or, you know, people in our lives who have been further along are so important.

And the reality is mentors can be people who you've never even met.

What, what's next for you? What are you doing that, that is, uh, driving the next chapter?