an ultimatum you can stay in school

uh or study something else or go and get a job so i wasn't really too ready for the real world yet so um the first thing i thought of was studying horticulture and the local um tafe there was running a intensive cert for in in horticulture so i just dived straight in i don't know what it was i think it was kind of um might be my blood to kind of follow that path.

I can't remember being particularly interested in gardening before that, but I really loved it.

Um, so from there, I, um, you know, did do that course.

I moved to Melbourne, worked in a retail plant nurseries for a year or so, then totally, which is a great start, but then totally flipped and went to, um, work on sports fine turf ovals at a private school in Scotch College in Melbourne, which I'm sure you know of, Meg.

So I was working there.

That took me on exchange to Wimbledon.

How do you go from idea, or maybe your book, you know, idea to the end product, right? Do you have a process that you go through that's kind of fine-tuned or

... gardens or green spaces or anything like that.

Yeah.

Uh, I sh- there was two that come to mind, and I shared another one.

Um, one would be...

Well, both are at my grandparents' places, so they're kind of gardens and wild landscapes.

But the first one is of my grandparents' place in Bendigo.

Um, when I was growing up, they were mad keen veggie growers, amongst other things.

Mm