Uh, let's start with you, Mr. Tim.

Well, I've been at it since I was about eight, nine years old.

Uh, I was possessed with cattle when I was young.

And so originally, I had some Charolais cattle in my early teens till late teens, and got involved with Charolais.

And of course, that was one of the new deals.

Uh, actually helped start the National Junior Charolais Association and was the first president of that.

I forgot that, and I got in- told about that here two weeks ago from a guy that went with me back in 1966.

Yeah.