This is very much a, a reflection of serious ongoing unresolved division within the National Party caucus.

caucus.And Mark, on that point of Chris Penk, let's just stop for a moment and think about Chris Penk.

He's the most unlikely person to have done this in this sense.

He's in a safe national seat.

He's not one of the eight or nine or 10 or however many it is who are in that caucus who would be at risk of missing out necessarily on a list, or whose seat could swing if Luxon keeps underperforming.

He's a former military guy.

He was an officer.

Tim, do you think, uh, National will have to reconsider working with them? And how problematic is it for Winston Peters that there's a new kingmaker in the game?