So you mentioned toilet paper, and I'd love to get some more examples from you, some actual things that get made that people would be surprised to realize what it takes.

Something as simple as, uh, sugar.

And I love the story of making sugar, because sugar processing plants are quite energy-intensive.

You know, in one end, raw material straight from field or wherever it may be.

Out the other end, nice, clean packets of white or brown sugar.

In between those two points, so much energy, so much effort is put in to, to process that.

And I love the fact that with the sugar plant, uh, near us here in the east of England, it's quite amazing because they produce, they require so much energy that they used to just burn off any excess they had.

Clothing is manufactured.