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Tim Levene

Tim Levene

Entrepreneur

Feb 4, 2026

speaker_0HOST
2:03
What's your thought on that?
2:05
Well, I think that is, you know, it's a good point.
2:08
I think fundamentally, you've got to look under the hood.
2:11
And of course, the U.S. often achieves a premium because of the stronger growth trajectory.
2:16
I think in certain sectors, if you are selective here in Europe, you are seeing a similar growth trajectory.
2:21
And I think that's important.
2:23
As with any investor, we'll really look at, you know, where are we seeing that growth as well.
speaker_0HOST
3:43
So let me ask you then, why specifically fintech, especially for U.S. investors looking at Europe versus, say, traditional banks?
13:05
A, is fintech evolving and the future is more around infrastructure? And secondly, is how do you see this crypto wave or digital assets, if I may use a more legit term, converging with sort of, you know, fintech? Or do you see that these two will continue to sort of fight and not want to come together?
13:24
Okay, let me try and start with the former.
13:28
And I intend to agree with you.
13:30
I mean, I think we look at the market now as... a greater recognition amongst the global financial services incumbents that their digital transformation journeys have been long, often painful, and extraordinarily expensive.
13:46
And the vast majority of capital that they have deployed in their digital transformation has frankly been deployed ineffectively.
13:54
They are building on top of existing legacy technology stacks that in many respects are not fit for purpose and require fresh thinking.
14:05
And five, six years ago, where there were some viable solutions for, let's call them some of the largest banks, there was a real inertia reluctance to engage with these infrastructure players.

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41:51
Yeah.

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