Uh, did you hear from Gibby when you, when you, uh, signed up with the Mets?

Yeah, we talk.

We talk all the time.

It's funny.

It's nice to get to see him.

I saw him obviously with San Diego.

Got to see him a couple times a year, uh, when we played against them.

But, you know, we'll talk to him too, but what's been your impression of getting a chance to work with him on a regular basis?

And so talk about your connection to Canada, Team Canada, living in Canada, all that stuff.

I went, I went to work for the Expos, and then I eventually f- uh, wound up being the triple A manager in Ottawa.

Uh, I met my, me- met my wife there, had two kids, so I ended up staying there.

Um, and during that time in Ottawa, I would, I would go teach at an indoor facility, and, and sometimes I'd run into a guy named Greg Hamilton.

Uh, he was the head of Baseball Canada.

We knew each other for like three, four years, and then finally one day, like in 2003, um...

And, and I n- I didn't know about international baseball.

So what, what does Tim Leiper worry about? What does Tim Leiper pay attention to as a third base coach?

Wondering how infield coaching and technique has changed in this modern age where there's so much more data than there used to be, and what elements of it have remained timeless.

Uh, I think there's a fundam- I, I think the, the basic elements of defense have always been...

They, I think what, you know, what you see now, you see so much on the internet with the preparation, with the machines and the, and the, the really fa- the fancy talk [laughs] and all these things, and they're all re- it's all really, really good stuff.

But you also gotta keep it in perspective because at the end of the day, a ground ball in the ninth inning that moves you five steps and you have to ma- throw out a fast runner at first, that's what remains true.

So, you know, I th- I think along a lot of ways people get caught up in the preparation and how to do things.

I mean, uh, the one thing for us, and Kai and I really, we are, work well on this together, realize, like, the, the game's the most important thing.

So you can do these things, and it's a great warm-up to get to the bigger things, which is, like, being able to catch ground balls and get outs when you need to get outs.

Mm-hmm.