But what if you have two that are 2P1s? So why don't we start? How did you guys get into the hobby?

So...

I called myself at the Coral Gables event a couple months ago an accidental points and miles collector in that in the late 80s, professionally, I was traveling for work three to four days a week.

And for about 30 years, I was a road warrior.

And I had points and hotel nights acquired through heading bed kind of thing and butts in seats miles.

And I really earned it that way.

It wasn't about credit card earning.

Yeah.