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Tim Harting
COO of Cirrius Solutions, a Salesforce consulting partner, and co-host/guest on the Cirrius Talk podcast covering agentic AI strategy.
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Oct 9, 2026
[Ep 078] Jev vs LLMs: Decisions in Milliseconds for 4 Cents per Million Tokens
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1:23Greg BanksHOST
I know you've been at the playground this weekend kind of messing around with it, but what is JEV?
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1:33Tim HartingGUEST
So we've just seen release after release after release of large language models coming out, and they are progressively getting better and better.
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1:41Tim HartingGUEST
There's no denying that, but they've all essentially been like the same type of technology, the same model.
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1:47Tim HartingGUEST
So What makes Jeb really interesting and why it's gaining a lot of notoriety right now is because it's actually a different type of model under the hood.
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9:24Gavin FranklinGUEST
And with Jev, we're not saying it can't get wrong answers, but it's not going to be unexpected to the output because you have a predefined output.
[Ep 075] The Artifact Ladder: 5 Tiers From PowerPoint to Full AI-Built Apps
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4:12Gavin FranklinGUEST
I think that communication has just been with a combination of coding, one of the biggest unlocks AI has given to us in the sense that we're able to effectively get points across very easily.
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4:22Tim HartingGUEST
And I got to say this before we jump in more, because it puts a very huge smile on my face.
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4:27Tim HartingGUEST
The age of throwing everything into a PowerPoint deck and having to slave away on a PowerPoint deck for hours is over.
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4:38Tim HartingGUEST
They fondly refer to many infantry officers as PowerPoint rangers when you're in a planning department.
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4:45Tim HartingGUEST
And so I've spent many times working on PowerPoints, both in the military and in business.
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4:50Tim HartingGUEST
And it's just there's other ways now of communicating to other people across your organization that are more interactive.
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19:53Gavin FranklinGUEST
And it builds on the foundations of all the things that we've been talking about.