It's like they're sort of... proposition of of the now which is very much like if you like me as a creator and what i'm in trying to do help me out kickstart all on patreon or whatever this is kind of a form of like believe in this and we can make something cool here

yeah i mean that that's the i'm actually in the process of kind of re-thinking things so it it Rethinking the communication strategy along that vein.

I think people like to be on an adventure.

Because I think I have a fairly adventurous spirit.

And it's quite nice to...

Well, my impression is that there are a lot of people who kind of like to be... like to come along with a sort of buccaneering adventure.

Definitely.

that small isn't it yeah yeah yeah i

Is that correct? And so this is a sort of journey through to being a final desktop or plugin application that is essentially allows you to build your own devices and s- to a certain amount generate, generate, uh, musical ideas, but obviously with plenty of human interaction, and it's not AI based, right?

Correct.

Yeah.

So, um, the, I mean, the reason it, it came about, um, uh, so yeah, correct.

I, I, I built this prototype in, in Reactor.

Uh, I went to great lengths.

In fact, uh, partly, I mean, it was always my plan to kind of build this as its own platform, but I thought I would be getting some way with Reactor first.

But VST has become, you know, uh, was the beginning of all of that.