Yeah.

Which they, which w- the whole point, from my way of thinking, was that, um, they're not a party and, and, and that's what's interesting and that's what's attractive and that's where a lot of the potential is.

Um, so I've always thought of them as the community independents.

So now this idea of them somehow forming a party has emerged and, you know, my instantaneous reaction to it, "Well, you know, how can you possibly do that? Your whole, um, raison d'être is not to be a party." Um, but then, you know, you think about it for a couple of minutes and you realize that...

And, and this is, this is where it gets interesting and complicated and, um, nuanced, I guess, um, is that still our, all of our political structures are structured around parties, and this was, um, absolutely reinforced by a couple of things that the Albanese government has done, um, including, um, changing staffing levels for the-

No, I'm sure we would not have.

And, and it would've present...

Yeah.