What other aspects of the way that you like to, to run things and, and prepare people do you, do you think helps with that high success rate?

Okay.

I'm very honest with people.

I never, ever lie.

Like, this is absolutely what is, what is going to happen.

You have the classic train for the worst, hope for the best, accept what you get.

And we added that accept what you get onto, onto the end of it because everybody wants to go out on that perfect day.

Now, i- in terms of yourself being a swimmer and, you know, still hitting the pool, what, how important do you find it, find for you that still keeping connected with the water and having that experience swimming the channel and, and doing long swims, how, how important is that for you to be able to then relate to your swimmers and transfer that knowledge?