Can you tell us a little bit about the latest book? That's by hand, right? Yeah.

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So I see the recent... say, five years of my Endangered Alphabets work as this trilogy.

So the first one is the book, the print edition of the Atlas of Endangered Alphabets, which is now there's a Japanese edition, there's an Italian edition.

It's sort of getting out there.

And in a way, that's the beginning because it sort of says, hey, these things exist and they're really interesting.

You've got one?

Some of our teachers were like, "You have to loop your Gs." Some of them were like, "Never do that." So you think, "Well, what is right? I simply don't know."

That's absolutely true, and there's several things in what you've just said.

One is that each country tends to have a very, really distinct style of what they feel is right.

And secondly, even within a particular school, as you say, it would be quite common to start out at primary school being taught this is h- the right way, and then being told later, "No, it's the wrong way." But it was absolutely part of this notion that good handwriting is related to good behavior, and the teaching of writing is related to the teaching of behavior.

There is a, um, a great book by Euan Clayton called The Golden Thread.

He's a, a, a wonderful calligrapher, and it's the history of, of writing in English pretty much.

And in England and in the United States in particular, in the 18th century, children were tied to their chairs.

Are there cultures in which the reverse is happening, that there's positive developments?