So was there a moment in time that you really found God and and devoted yourself I remember seeing your family starting to go to church

yeah yeah so it's interesting because we there's a full testimony behind how we found God but when I met my husband nine years ago I had just started going to church then I went through a divorce because with my ex-husband and I stopped going to church and I met my new husband which is my current husband we've been together 10 years and I took him to church and he was an atheist and I took him to church we went a couple of times and there was just a few comments that didn't sit well with him just from the congregation and whatever else.

And so we decided to walk away from it, but I always had a relationship with God.

Now I didn't grow up in a church.

I have no history of growing up in a church or any faith or any religion.

And so I always had a connection to God.

I always, I was always in prayer, but maybe not in a formal way of prayer, more so just a conversation with God constantly.

No, no,

Yep.

And it depends on, and I can see this a lot, especially with the female founders I work with, if they're new to business, where they've come from and how much money they've earned before, that is what their nervous system, what they now feel comfortable earning.

Anything above that puts them into, not all of them, but can put them into a fight or flight, can put them into questioning their identity, not knowing what to do with that money.

So it takes a little while for them to adjust that new thermostat.

And so what can happen is when it's, I wouldn't say people, I don't want to generalize because I don't think everyone's icky about money, but there's been, again, to that sales is a dirty word.

It's that whole same connotation around, when you have more money, bad people have more money.

People do bad things with money.

it

Wow.

We're sitting there.

All right, I'll get to the point now.

I'm laying back and I could just feel, so Josh is laying next to me in the sun, I'm laying back on the chair and I could just, it was busy, not many people in the pool but a lot of people around the pool because winter and everyone's trying to sunbathe and get warm.

And something just ripped through my entire body where I sat up and I've just screamed, Josh, like in this blood curdling.

I don't remember.

It's how he describes it.

Yeah.