Mm.

And, you know, that process taught me a lot about leadership.

Um, one thing that I live by is, like, when we're building a project, when we hire those subcontractors after the bid, you know, when we're building the schedule, we get their buy-in.

We ask them, "How long is this, how long you think this is gonna take?" You get their buy-in, you get the respect, and then it becomes a team effort.

Ah.

That's- that's probably one of the most important things, too.

And then, you know, I mean, you gotta respect the people you work around, and they will respect you.

I mean, you don't treat them like dirt.