
Thomas McNaughton
American chef and restaurateur
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Oct 15, 2026
A Would-Be Goat Farmer & An Almost-Cop: The Two Chefs Behind Flour + Water
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Jonathan SteeleHOST
And what are you most determined not to compromise in that translation? Because I know that has to be grassroots for you in decision making.

Thomas McNaughtonGUEST
10 years ago, someone's like, do you want a line of frozen pizza? I'd be like, my God, you sell out.

Thomas McNaughtonGUEST
Here I am taking this call from an 11,000 square foot facility in the East Bay that we're transforming to our latest dough room.
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Ryan PollnowGUEST
And so it's just implementing a plan that we put together as a cohesive team unit six years ago.
Why Most Restaurants Fail (And How We Built One That Lasted 17 Years)
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28:27AdamHOST
Why say I'm going to go off on a limb and start a new restaurant, even with a guy like David, who you obviously got along with well, you liked, but it's still a big risk, right? What made you say, like, this is something I want to go do? Or is that something that every aspiring chef says, I want to go build my own, my own thing?

Thomas McNaughtonGUEST
And I was enthralled by the atmosphere before I was enthralled with the food in the kitchen.

Thomas McNaughtonGUEST
And I felt like I was joining a pirate ship and a baseball team all at the same time.

Thomas McNaughtonGUEST
And one of the beautiful, beautiful benefits of a neurodivergent brain is hyperfocus.
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42:12AdamHOST
So how do you make sure you get it right?
Thomas McNaughton + Ryan Pollnow: Building Culture & Community
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12:38Gabriel OrnelasHOST
This is a place for you to not only have a job, but feel a part of something, hopefully bigger, you know, be a part of a community, be a part of a team, be a part of a, dare I say, a family, you know, so to speak.

Thomas McNaughtonGUEST
No, I know that most people in the industry coming, certainly myself and Ryan included, it's such a unique atmosphere.

Thomas McNaughtonGUEST
And I mean that in good ways and bad ways, right? You know, and just the screaming and the culture of like, you know, it was always crazy to me coming up in those restaurants where a server would come in the kitchen and they're getting berated, yelled at, shit's hitting the wall.

Thomas McNaughtonGUEST
And it's like, they go to the table and it's just this, there's no authenticity there, right? And so it was always really important for myself and Ryan that collaboration creates buy-in.

Thomas McNaughtonGUEST
When someone can sit there and have part of themselves go into a guest experience, whether that's a plate of food or their style of service at the table, when they're bought in and they feel like they're putting themselves forth, they will try the hardest they can possibly try to make that a success.
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39:57Gabriel OrnelasHOST
As chefs with a voice, as a company with impact, how do we move more percentages in the direction of really great production?