Could you give us a-an example of one of these programs maybe at the different levels, like what, uh, participants in some of these programs experience?

Sure.

So for example, we have been supporting training and deep, uh, conversations w-with farming communities.

For example, in India, with the framing of human values, uh, which, uh, they have found is, uh, helpful to str- anchor, I would say, more, uh, solidly the agro-ecological transition into a different worldview and relationship in particular with nature.

And, uh, we are working, for example, also with, uh, Sekem in Egypt, which is a famous initiative who have been able to green the desert through biodynamic agriculture, and their approach is centering very much, uh, consciousness.

You know, the, the founder, Kam, started the organization with a, with a tractor and piano because he really believed that, you know, cultural and inner development is an integral part of that transformation.

They have been very successful, and they are providing, for example, to their employees half a day per week for their own inner cultural development.

Thomas, where are things going with the Conscious Food Systems Alliance? Like, what are your plans, aspirations, long-term goals?

I'm very curious, what do you think about the rise of AI? How do you think it will support or, yeah, how do you think it will factor into this, the ideal future that you see? And do you use it? Like, do you use ChatGPT and stu- [chuckles] and stuff?

Not so much.

Uh, I do for very specific use, but, but not so much in general.

I mean, the way I see AI, if you take, uh, if you think about the evolution of humanity and from a biological perspective, let's say, where, you know, there is, uh, the body, there is a development with animals of the more vital part, we could say, with, you know, emotions and desires, et cetera.

And then there is a development of the mental sphere, the mind, and we're getting more intellectual and in the twentieth century, humanity has even been, has even started to fight for ideologies, no? So to me, that's a kind of cultim-cultivation of the mental age.

And I think that AI also is really about, you know, about what our mind can do.

And I think we are at the stage of humanity to become more reflective about our mind and recognizing that at the end, our mind are also somehow, you know, a big biological machine.

Um, was there any particular topics you wanted to draw attention to for our listeners?