Mm-hmm.

Um, and we're a, a large organization, and what we do is we bring people of different faiths together, not to argue about theology, uh, not to, not to, not to debate points of doctrine, but we, we band together to provide service in our community.

And you'll have Baptists and Latter-day Saints and Hindus and Muslims and, and atheists working side by side on a service project, uh, in, in, in a community.

And you know what you find, uh, when, when, when you work with people like that? You find that, you know, we may have differences of opinion about the nature of God or whether there is a God, but you know what? We end up liking each other.

We, we, we find that there's a common, uh, humanity.

There's a common dignity.

Uh, and, and, and, and that's what should bind us, uh, together.

What do you make of that?

Why does the Constitution matter to everyone regardless of whether you're an American or whether you live in a different country?

It's a great question.

It's an important question because as I understand it, what the Lord is saying when He says He inspired people to create the U.S. Constitution is He inspired them to create a form of government based on some fundamental ideas about humans are, and what they should be allowed to do.

Because every individual is a person of dignity whose dignity ought to be respected, there are certain things, as we organize ourselves as governments, there are certain things that governments may not do that infringe upon that human dignity.

So I think that's another principle that we get from the Constitution.

Along with that, there are principles in the amended constitution that recognize that there are certain liberties that humans have that are core to their ability to flourish as children of God, wherever they are.

And those have to do with freedom to think, freedom to speak your mind, freedom to believe or not believe in God, freedom to worship God if you do believe, that there's a fundamental sense of fairness that needs to animate government action towards individuals.

Constitution

Um, we'll, we'll link to some of these maybe in show notes can, and, uh-

Yeah.

So let's start with the idea that, uh, this is a really perilous moment.

Um, uh, you know, in our culture, we, we talk about the Constitution hanging by a thread, um, and, and I don't know exactly what that looks like, uh, but I suspect it looks a lot like today, uh, at least in my lifetime.

Uh, and, you know, I'm an old man now.

I remember, uh, the Cold War well.

I, I remember Watergate well.

So what happened then? What did it, what did it look like at your constitutional convention?