So what is Early Bird's thesis and what's your role within it?

It's adopting a little bit.

In fund two, which is our current fund, which we are still investing from, it's really a patient outcome driven fund.

We are the only fund who has public health insurances as cornerstone investors, which in the US with the payers and all of that, it's quite standard.

They even have their own, like Mario has their own venture fund or Kaiser Permanente, all of those, Ascension Health.

That is unheard of in Europe.

It's variant on the systems.

Why was that so important at the time and how does that actually come about as getting those as LPs? Was that you driving that personally within Early Bird or was it the insurers trying to get involved? Well that was me