The Queen

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Helen Mirren in The Queen.

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Meryl Streep in The Devil Wears Prada.

But it was very valuable, although it's a rather sycophantic book.

Actually, it, it gave great insights-

Just to- totally in praise of the Queen.

Well, the Queen is a little girl at that point.

I know.

And that was The Queen.

Yep.

So that also doesn't usually happen.

Mm-hmm

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Clint Eastwood for Letters From Iwo Jima, uh, Stephen Frears for The Queen, and Paul Greengrass for United 93.

Uh, Martin Scorsese wound up winning his first-ever Best Director Oscar for The Departed.

It's The Tradar Traitor.

The Tradar Traitor inspired by traitors viewers claims that they could easily spot the traitor's lies and deceptions and that the faithful are always useless we are going to play our own game of secrecy and betrayal so the mission for magiker and i from here on in in this podcast episode is to try and fool one another we're going to tell a sneaky lie somewhere the lie has to be a fabrication a made-up fact could be a huge big lie it could be a tiny it lie it could be about the show it could be about something we did today it could be about whatever we feel like for example i could lie to magica and say that i was actually invited by studio lambert to be a rogue cast member at the last minute for this year's celebrity traitors but i had to decline because filming was happening in the middle of eurovision week and i couldn't possibly miss that However, I couldn't lie and say I don't like this cast list and I think it's terrible.

That would be a fake opinion because actually I think it's a great cast list.

So we're looking for fake facts and false pieces of information in this game rather than fake thoughts and feelings.

Filming began last week.

I think it will go on till the end of this week.

I feel like it's probably a two week filming slot.

And we're going to get 10 episodes this time around, one more than the first series.

I think everybody will be familiar with Diana's story, even younger people, because they will probably have come across it on The Crown.

Some people will take their version of reality from the movie The Queen.

He's, I suppose, pitching it as the real life story.

But tell us a little bit about Earl Spencer, his background, his relationship with Diana.

What is it, Fred, about Princess Diana that keeps the British public, as you say, not just the British public, but so fascinated? Like, I didn't think I could learn something new today.

after three decades.

I thought it had every movie had been made, every book had been written.

The podcasts are all out there now in the modern era.

Because in the media at the time, like, he always just looked completely, like, devastated, but standing closely by his sons and, and, um, you know, speaking really well of Diana, and kind of looking like, um, someone who was, like, grieving with his sons over this, like, unified loss, is very much how he came across.

And there was so much, kind of, um, I guess, headlines around the time of, like, the Queen herself breaking protocol and going out to greet mourners, and all these things that she wouldn't normally have done for someone who was in, like, Diana's station at the time, except for the fact that she was so beloved by the public.

And even through pop culture, like, the, Prince Charles has always been depicted of, like, shocked, grieving.

Like in the movie The Queen with Helen Mirren-

Yeah

... or in The, The Crown, the Netflix series.

There was, just, there was no question that h- everyone's like, "He is a devastated man who had to step in and look after his, his sons," is how he's always been painted.

So I think this story really threw people who believed it.

Yeah.

You're, I, I would actually think, now, again, my, my knowledge of this is really based on the film The Queen with Helen Mirren.

Oh.

And then that season of The Crown that dealt with Diana's death.

I saw, I saw, like, just a, I don't know, one or two episodes of her, and she was crushing it.

She really was.

And it, but in, in the, um, I believe Peter Morgan also wrote the Helen Mirren version, uh, the, the feature film.

It, it, it takes great pains to show how sensitively that the Queen and Charles were in delivering the news to the boys.