The Comedian's Comedian with Stuart Goldsmith

I do now, for sure.

And also, like, I feel some level of, like, guilt around talking like this because I remember I went on a podcast called The Comedian's Comedian and I, like, listened back to some of what I said and I was, like, worried that I sounded a bit, like, smarmy and zen.

because like I was worried that like I was kind of sounding like I'd come to this like heightened level of like, you know, existence where like I could sit above it all and I was above all of these like, you know, petty insecurities that all of these artists had.

That's not what I'm saying.

[laughs] And in comedy corner, he is the sensational stand-up and podcast host.

I am a full-on fanboy of his podcast, The Comedian's Comedian, one of my absolute faves.

He's been on Conan O'Brien's TV show.

Yes.

And because I've done the, my podcast for, it's been over, like, 520-something episodes at the moment, it's been 14 years, and I like to say it's the only not funny comedy podcast.

It's called The Comedian's Comedian, you mentioned before, and it's, I've had these huge, huge guests, but it's really me trying to say to them, "How do you write? How do you create? How do you cope?"

Mm.

That's, that's the-