So just to give you a little bit of a background, in South Africa, when we adopted

BIM, using software is like Revit, which allows us to create this information models, right? Initially, the industry moved over from like a 2D flat environment to producing 3D models for like quite a long period, right? And what that created in the industry, you'd have, surprisingly enough, you'd have architects with different standards, right? So let's say, Loazi, you own a couple of malls or shopping centers.

You'd receive this shopping center in a different format, right? from another, and then your second shopping center will come in a different format.

At the end of the day, you wouldn't be able to manage, you'd eventually be able to manage your buildings, but that's a lot more effort to run your buildings because you don't have a standardized set of information that you're receiving.

So what happened in the industry a while back, like I think almost 10 years ago in the UK, the government mandated a standard.

to control this information that's being received in a built environment, right? That obviously trickled globally and became an international standard for digital delivery.

ISO 19650, right? The standard forces, architects, engineers, et cetera, to follow system to deliver information.

yes yes yes yes that's your information systems