This is what we found in 186 patients.

Those who had a score, the score is 0 to 9, 9 being the most compliant.

Those who had a score of 5 or more, all were greater than 50%, kept their weight off, and lost even more.

They were in the best 50% you could.

0 to 3 were in the worst 50%, and 4 was a scattergram.

So I said, well, eating healthier seems to...

they seemed to do a little better.

Right.

... and turning it into a cell that can produce insulin.

One of the things that I find fascinating about Type 2 diabetes is that w- th- is that when we diagnose Type 2 diabetes in somebody, they've already lost 50% of their pancreatic islet cells.

And so when I hear people out there saying, "I've reversed my diabetes," and, you know, I, I, I get picky.

You've seen me get picky on this.

It's like, you haven't reversed it.

You put it into remission, 'cause you've lost 50% of your cells.

You've lost them, and that whole mechanism of as the islet cell is producing more and more insulin, the misfolded ins- the insulin isn't always misfolded.

Where would you start?

Was it, was it difficult being a bariatric surgeon and being overweight yourself?

It was.

I felt like I was, uh, hypocritical.

I felt like I was living a lie because most of what you do in bariatric surgery is not do the surgery.

It's teaching people how to eat afterwards.

And one of the reasons I get became certified in culinary medicine is I had looked around the surgery world and said, "We don't have any protocol to tell people how to eat." We have a lot of people saying, "Oh, you should do low carb." Like almost everybody in this space, many of us started out on some low-carb journey somewhere and thought that was the bananas, and then realized very quickly, no, it's not.

And I had been down that road also.

Okay.

They dramatically lowered their risk of heart disease.

It did.

It did.

Lyon did the same thing.

Lyon had...

When you look at the study out of Lyon, for which there's criticism for, valid criticism, they took people who had their first heart attack.

So we know they have heart disease.

But just quickly on peptides, to close the loop there, what do you think about RFK Jr.'s, uh, kinda proposal to recategorize some peptides? And I'm talking about BPC 157 and-