Wow.

And so I understand your journey well.

And I always say when people say to me, I don't see how you did that.

I couldn't do it.

And I said, I believe that you couldn't do it because I believe that unless the grace of God is upon you, You don't have the strength or the energy to do it because it becomes a full-time thing to do.

It takes up your life.

It takes up your day.

It's a great idea because I found him to be willing to do that.

He was dead broke, and his marriage had fallen apart, and he'd just walked away, and for the first time, Terry saw the reality of his parents' situation with his own eyes.

eyes.Well, the door in the facility was made of steel, and it was then chained and padlocked closed.

The chain was rusty, and there was grass growing around that door, where before it wasn't.

And our attorney bought, uh, brought a pair of bolt cutters and, uh, removed that lock and chain and slid the door back, and we went down and, and you could just see that, you know, there was pieces of equipment here and there and the capsule lid open, and i- it was unbearable, just unbearable.

And I was just, I, I was just numb, uh, you know, just numb.

I, well, I, I couldn't, you know, look inside that capsule, but, uh, I just, you know, backed away when I realized that there were just, uh, you know, remains inside, and we'd brought flowers, and so we laid them there by the capsule, and then, then I just went up the stairs and left.

[gentle music] I felt guilty because I, I should have, you know, been there night and day, which of course isn't very realistic, but at the time I f- I felt very guilty.

You, you have no idea where they're buried now?