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Terry Gerstein
Terri Gerstein, director of the NYU Wagner Labor Initiative and former New York State Labor Bureau Chief, is a workers' rights expert who has appeared as a guest on FAIR's CounterSpin.
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Oct 11, 2026
CounterSpin – October 11, 2026
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Janine JacksonHOST
But there are structural problems when we kind of elide gig economy as if it were a side thing, when in fact it's becoming, you know, the thing for a lot of people.

Terry GersteinGUEST
Yes, I think that one of the things that I'm very concerned about right now is the spread of this gig model to...

Terry GersteinGUEST
Already it's problematic enough that it's so prevalent in the transportation and food delivery sectors, but it has begun to spread to other sectors as well.

Terry GersteinGUEST
For example, Katie Wells, who now works for AI Now, wrote a report and then a follow-up report about Uber for nursing and Uber for nurses, and companies that are using this kind of gig model where they hire people, nurses and others in the healthcare industry, and they hire them as 1099, allegedly, you know, 1099 independent contractors and not as employees with rights.

Terry GersteinGUEST
And this obviously has all kinds of implications for patient care because for, you know, people are not necessarily having the continuity.

Terry GersteinGUEST
Y- you might have a different person who is not familiar with that hospital.

Terry GersteinGUEST
The fact that they don't have rights to protect them against, um, retaliation if they complain about unsafe conditions, for example, right? Because the protection against retaliation for whistleblowing, that applies to employees and not to independent contractors.
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Janine JacksonHOST
You shouldn't do it." But it is an example of how if you care about it, if you wanna do it, you can work for it, right?