How did it drag you in?

Yeah, interesting enough, when I graduated from undergrad at Grandma State University, I matriculated to Jackson State University for graduate school, and I was focused on public finance, right? My major in undergrad was public administration, which is really looking at the business administrative function of government, because I've always loved government.

always been a state of government because I always believed that if I could make the rules and regulations, I could determine how people needed help, right? Let me finish this game.

Yes, I've always been curious about rules and regulations.

Civics was my favorite subject in high school, but I wanted to figure out how to use that from a business perspective.

So public finance is what I really wanted to go into.

And when I needed a way to pay for graduate school, because my parents couldn't afford to pay for it, I received, the only way I could have received a fellowship, it was a United States Department of Housing and Urban Development fellowship named after Patricia Robert Harris, who was the first African-American secretary of Hullet.

That was

What else is needed here that you feel like may need to be strengthened? Is it from the state level? Is it more

partners? Yeah.

So when you think about, again, when you think about the group project that is Atlanta, Mayor Dickens has done a phenomenal job of making sure, one, that the public sector agencies are all on the same page and moving towards with the vision that we have to move with urgency and fast, not just to provide affordable housing, but quite honestly, to help people.

You know, I literally just wrote an op-ed on yesterday that spoke about, you know, where we are and what we're seeing right now.

And this isn't the only thing that's needed, but we need more capital because what we're seeing now is that we have deals on the table that have the equity, that have the tax credits.

that have the subsidy, rental subsidy from Atlanta Housing, and you're still looking at significant gaps.

And that significant gap from a financial standpoint is upwards of $5 and $10 million.

Brian, so that breaks

Like if I do this, they're going to think I approve of it.

Yes.

I hear that.

If I don't, if I listen, I hear this.

If I listen, they're going to think I agree.

Right.

And to me, that's just something you need to change your mind about.

Well, and then

It just kind of slips in there.

Yeah, that's a great question.

What I've seen is anxiety and stress in our lives.

I think back to when I was a mom of, you know, teens, that it often came out as managing and trying to help people.

being the fixer or, you know, trying to fix their problems, trying to explain or over explain or lecture, whatever word you want to use.

I think I did it in all versions with my kids on how my ideas or your ideas, you've got the experience, you've got the wisdom.

And so they really work and you want your kids to, to understand that you want them to learn from you, right? You don't want them to make the same mistakes.

So how do you recommend that parents do? stay anchored in that calm and that peace and to keep the child from pulling away? Or if they are pulling away, how does the parent stay anchored in that moment when they see their child doing things that are the wrong decision and they want to fix it, but it's not theirs to fix anymore?