Okay.

The emotional need behind it to actually, to feel considered, to feel thought about, to feel cared about.

Um, I think that that for many women, especially the women that I work with, is that, that emotional space to actually hear.

So particularly, um, for people who have families as well and children, it's like they could have a really full on day, um, then come home, the children are being, you know, wild and, you know, there's just a lot going on.

Maybe the partner comes back from work, um, and she's trying to explain how her day has been and she's feeling really emotional and just like, you know, "You're overreacting" could be the response from it.

"Oh, no, it's okay." And it's like, "No, no, no, actually listen to me." Do you know? There's, um, some principles that I like to think about, it's the three Hs.

[laughs] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know, "I, I enjoyed our time together.