Okay.

In 92, I think it was, I went back to Miami because I had divorced my second wife, went back to Miami, went to culinary school at Johnson & Wales.

Got really involved there.

Also involved in the recovery aspect of the school and hooked up with a couple of dudes who, hey, they're still sober today, as a matter of fact, too, Chris and Mike.

And we started going to meetings together in Miami and Fort Lauderdale when we weren't in class.

And we actually met some people that's a part of my story, which was a little later on that I didn't realize.

I had met somebody years before we actually met each other.

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