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Ted Lieu

Ted Lieu

Lawyer and former United States Representative

Sep 25, 2026

13:58
Why do you think the president has not yet delivered that punch that he warned on China?
14:06
So one of the problems, as you noted, is the Trump administration threatening all sorts of things against Iran, such as the economic D-Day, and then failing to execute, failing to carry that out.
14:17
And then you've seen the president himself repeatedly say things like he's going to annihilate Iran, and then he fails to carry that out.
14:24
And so the— government of Iran is very aware that now the Trump administration just says stuff and you can't take what the administration says seriously.
14:33
So that is a problem for the Trump administration and for our country.
14:37
It's made our credibility be put into question.
14:40
And I really don't know why this administration is not working harder to get China to stop helping Iran.
16:58
Would you support impeaching President Trump, or is it a better strategy, as others have suggested, to go after members of his administration, perhaps his cabinet, instead of he himself?
6:12
So what's the harm?
6:16
That's actually not accurate.
6:18
The United States Senate is still in session.
6:21
And had Speaker Johnson not changed our schedule and given us two weeks of vacation time, we could be working with the US Senate right now to pass AI legislation.
6:30
And we're no longer in the realm of science fiction.
6:32
Let me just explain what one of these OpenAI models did.
6:37
OpenAI created 1,200 AI agents, locked them up, put guardrails on, and said, complete a cybersecurity test.
10:41
Congressman, does there need to be, in addition to a kill switch, should it ever be legislated, a federal bureaucracy stood up like the FAA or the NTSB or something to oversee this entire industry and all that it might create in the future?
18:51
Congressman Lu, what's your reaction to what we're hearing from President Trump repeatedly over the past few days about AI, uh, and, uh, the potential threat? He's calling it a hoax.
19:03
Well, let me say I agree with Congressman Moran about the threat.
19:08
And the reason we're getting bipartisan support for our bill, including Senator John Kennedy, who's gonna introduce a version of a kill switch on the Senate side, is because our kill switch by definition does not slow down innovation.
19:23
It only applies to models that have already been built.
19:27
So here's an analogy.
19:28
We don't tell car manufacturers to not make cars.
19:31
The federal government literally buys a car after a car's been made, we crash test it, and if there's a problem, we tell the manufacturer to fix it.
19:59
What exactly counts as catastrophic?
21:37
Now, I'm, you know, thinking about a world where we're hearing about hugging face and swarms of agents in different civilizations that don't even know their agents and, you know, makes me think how in the world could there be a kill switch? How exactly would it work?
21:52
Thank you, Erin, for your question.
21:54
Let me first say that today, on September 11th, we will never forget the victims of the horrific terrorist attacks, and we'll never forget the bravery of our first responders.
22:04
Also today is Rosh Hashanah, and so to the Jewish community, happy Rosh Hashanah.
22:09
Now, in answer to your question, society has had a simple solution to machines that can do great good and cause great harm.
22:20
It's a kill switch.
22:21
So heavy machinery has kill switches, high speed rail.
26:14
So are we screwed?
10:23
W- w- what is your reaction to where we are right now and listening to Priya's reporting from Thailand?
10:28
Uh, thank you, Jacob, for your question.
10:30
I agree with Republican Senator Thom Tillis that Secretary Hegseth should resign.
10:36
I served, uh, four years in the US military on active duty, an additional 21 years in the reserves, and I've never seen this kind of chaos and dysfunction.
10:45
I also know that the problems go much deeper than just one secretary.
10:49
The Iran war showed that a second-rate Iranian military damaged multiple US bases, and that we're running out of munitions.
10:57
So now the whole world has seen that United States cannot sustain a war, cannot defend our bases, cannot defend our allies.
12:12
They say, "Heck Seth- Heck Seth's purge of the military has been so dramatic that with Driscoll gone, the military's largest service is left without a top civilian leader, a Senate-confirmed top general, a confirmed army general in charge of operations, or a confirmed commander of Army troops in Europe." Um, that certainly doesn't sound good in the middle of a major, major regional war.
25:39
You know? Uh, what do you think, how do you feel about, like, how do you think about your job as kind of breaking through to get people to hear what you have to say?
25:48
That's a great point you make.
25:49
So one reason we don't read about planes that land is it doesn't sell newspapers, right? It doesn't sell TV ads.
25:56
And as a result, I think people have a very skewed view of what happens, that you have all these sort of extreme voices that you see on TV is because it's sort of clickbait and it sells ads.
26:06
But in reality, when you sort of look at how government functions and how Congress functions, um, a lot of it is not that extreme, and you have things happening, uh, that are helping the American people, except for this term.
26:19
This term has all been batshit crazy and extreme.

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39:54
That was-
39:54
... not designed to do this.
8:50
Is there any indication the White House has a coherent strategy to open the Strait of Hormuz and avoid an all out war?
8:59
Thank you, Alex, for your question.
9:01
I previously served an active duty in the United States Air Force and then in the reserves.
9:06
And we have the best air force in the world, the best military in the world.
9:10
But if you look at history, it is very difficult for airstrikes alone to cause regime change.
9:17
And so if you don't change the regime in Iran and they stay there, then they don't have to listen to you.
9:21
And they're clearly not listening to Donald Trump.
10:23
Were you surprised that Waltz didn't know the actual number of wounded troops? You did.
12:25
Do you believe that you are even getting straight, let alone timely, answers on the risks to troops and even how many are being wounded?
12:36
Uh, thank you, Laura, for your question.
12:38
Let me first say my prayers go out to the US service members in the Middle East who are risking their lives in this war with Iran.
12:45
And today, the House of Representatives passed, on a bipartisan basis, the War Powers Resolution to end this war.
12:52
It's time to bring the troops home.
12:55
And to your question, I call on the Trump administration to stop lying to the American people.
13:01
They repeatedly lied, saying that the Iranian m- military has been obliterated.
13:42
Do you think that that's a tactic that will work to actually deter Iran or lead us to an end of this war?
4:26
How does this how does this get sorted out in your view?
4:29
Sure.
4:30
I was appointed as a co-chair of the Democratic Commission on AI and the Innovation Economy, along with Valerie Foushee and Josh Gottheimer.
4:41
So let me explain why Leader Jeffries created this commission.
4:45
Because we took a look at the strategy from the White House and Republican leadership.
4:50
And basically what we saw is an attempt to suppress legislation at the state level and then fail to do so.
4:57
A direct suppression of legislation at the federal level related to AI.

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11:33
So
33:37
Thank you
33:37
... to all of the mothers across America.
33:40
Regarding your question, I would disagree that Republicans may have a nine seat, nine seat advantage because that's based on data from last term, and the Trump correlation has completely collapsed because of skyrocketing gas prices, surging inflation.
33:57
And if you look at the polling data and the results we've had in special elections this year as well as last year, we think the Republicans may have an advantage of anywhere between three to five additional seats.
34:09
That is not enough for them to stop a Democratic blue wave coming this November.
34:14
And the best thing to do, uh, when, uh, a court does something outlandish like the Virginia Supreme Court is to get back up and fight and make sure we win in the midterms.
37:17
Are you largely supportive at this point of the Trump administration's willingness to, to strengthen Taiwan's defense?
37:25
Yeah.
9:00
Uh, what's your view on that?
9:02
The Constitution is very clear.
9:05
It says only Congress can declare war, and we're clearly in a war against Iran.
9:10
The president has called it a war.
9:12
The secretary of defense has called it a war.
9:14
And until the president comes up and asks for approval for this war, I'm going to vote not for a single penny of additional funding for the war, and I'm gonna war for-- vote for the War Powers Resolution that's gonna terminate hostilities until this administration asks for an authorization for the use of military force.
9:36
So David, let me, let me also add, um, it's not just a constitutional requirement.

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23:51
Um, how do you, how do you feel this war is affecting our, um, security interests outside of the Middle East, and particularly with regard to Europe, uh, uh, Russia and Ukraine?
9:52
W- what's your reaction to this?
9:55
Yeah.
9:55
Uh, thank you, Chris, for your question.
9:57
Let me start by saying Attorney General Pam Bondi lied under oath when she appeared before the House Judiciary Committee, and now we learn that she's also withholding multiple documents that contain allegations that Donald Trump had sexual relations with an underage girl.
10:15
That is in violation of the Epstein Files Transparency Act.
10:19
Attorney General Pam Bondi should be prosecuted for making a false statement under oath and for engaging in an epic cover-up.
10:27
Now, obviously, Pam Bondi is not gonna prosecute herself, and that's why Congressman Dan Goldman and I, we're both former prosecutors, sent a letter to the Department of Justice requesting that Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche appoint a special counsel to investigate Pam Bondi, who has committed crimes.
13:39
Do you have- you put any credence in that?
7:19
So can I have your reaction to the DOJ's rapid response account?
7:23
Well, that's just false.
7:24
So the document I'm referring to is a intake form from the FBI's National Threat Operations Center.
7:31
The person making the witness statement was a man relaying what a girl he met had told him.
7:39
This man was also a limousine driver for Donald Trump.
7:43
Um, and he also says in the same witness report that he overheard Donald Trump talking to Jeffrey on his cell phone, talking about abusing a girl, and that what Donald Trump said was so disturbing, the man wanted to stop the limo and hurt Trump.
7:58
So this seems like a very credible witness, and the Department of Justice never interviews him.

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15:41
And so what responsibility ha- do- does this, the next attorney general, who has some commitment to the rule of law, have to relentlessly, fearlessly pursuing, um, pursuing this stuff as opposed to, you know, what we saw in past administrations?
24:40
And Congressman, turning now to today's vote to end the government shutdown, again, as we watch those live pictures from the Oval Office, what is your message to your fellow House Democrats who voted for today's funding package?
24:52
Yeah.
24:53
Uh, so today's funding package shuts down DHS in essentially 10 days, uh, if there is no agreement to reform Trump's out-of-control ICE and Border Patrol.
25:05
And the demands that Democrats are asking for are making sure that ICE and Border Patrol behave and conduct themselves in accordance with what real police officers do.
25:17
Real police officers don't wear masks.
25:19
Real police officers wear body cameras.
25:22
Real police officers cooperate in investigations.
26:26
What constitutes meaningful reform here?
11:01
Do you, do you agree with the approach, or do you see some areas where it's, uh, a, a little bit more intervention is called for?
11:09
So the problem with the administration's approach is if Congress and the administration do nothing, which is sort of happening right now because, again, the Republicans control the White House, the Senate and the House, and they're not inclined to do very much of anything on AI, it just means that states are going to do it.
11:28
So the question is not whether you're gonna get AI regulations.
11:31
It's do you want it coming from Congress with one national standard, or do you want 17 different states doing that? And I don't know if the administration, uh, has fully internalized that they lost the battle on this.
11:43
They tried to put in a 10-year moratorium to prevent states from regulating AI, and they lost that vote 99 to one in the US Senate.
11:53
Uh, you can't really get the US Senate to agree on most things, um, including what color the sky is 99 to one, yet they lost that AI vote 99 to one, and I hope the administration realizes what that means.
12:04
And what that means is now you're gonna have states like California and Colorado and New York and other states Putting in their own AI regulations that make it far worse for the industry, who now have to comply with all these different states.

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19:36
He wants to own a piece of Intel, doesn't he? I mean-
32:28
But he did say, "I'm Senator Padilla." What is your reaction to how they've characterized it?
32:33
DHS spokesperson is lying.
32:36
And that should not be surprising because the Trump Administration lies all the time.
32:41
This incident happened in their federal building in my district.
32:45
To get into that federal building, there's immense security and you go through a- all sorts of security checks.
32:51
So people who are in that room, uh, have already been checked by security.
32:56
And as you noted, Senator Padilla identified himself.
33:48
Uh, what is your sense of who should be accountable for this moment?
32:32
Where do you come down on that? And would you support, uh, impeaching the president? Some of your colleagues have not ruled this out.
32:39
The first priority of Democrats would be to help restore our economy.
32:45
Donald Trump ran a campaign on having the golden age of having economic growth, of lowering prices.
32:53
He's done none of that.
32:54
He's done exactly the opposite.
32:56
That's why his poll ratings are now at the lowest of any president in 80 years, at the 100-day mark.
33:03
And I do note that when you talk about House Democrats, a recent Fox News poll has House Democrats at a plus seven advantage on the generic congressional ballot over House Republicans.
34:02
Um, but if this is something that you face, that you believe that there are going to be cuts to Medicaid, what do you think Democrats can do about it? And do you think the social safety net is sustainable?
26:19
Does a joker like him, a top, actually have an impact, you think, on our fighting readiness?
26:26
It certainly could.
26:28
Uh, people look up to the secretary of defense.
26:30
You have young enlisted folks who look up to leadership.
26:33
You have senior commanders who take orders, right, from senior leadership.
26:38
And I'll tell you this story.
26:39
So George Washington University does this sort of training seminar for colonels, 06s, and they bring them to Capitol Hill and, uh, I was speaking at that seminar and my staff had written me a perfectly fine speech and I basically said, "You know, I'm not gonna give that speech today." I basically said to them, "I just want you to consider what are y'all gonna do if you get an order that's batshit crazy? Are you going to execute it? Are you going to say, 'Look, this order's batshit crazy, I'm not gonna execute it'? Are you gonna stand up? Are you gonna resign?" So I wanted these folks to at least think about that.

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48:53
What needs to be done to actually erode, at an operational level, this whole total demolition, authoritarian project?
14:44
Hmm. Elissa Slotkin of course delivered the Democratic response. She talked about her background as a CIA, uh, officer. She talked about i- the importance of the economy, the fact that the economy is a national security issue. She really laid out to some extent a, a road map of messaging. Three main points. I'll tick through them. The middle class economy, a strong national security, and defending democracy. In your mind, Congressman, is that the Democratic Party's platform right now, moving forward?
15:19
Uh, Democrats have always supported those three priorities. And I note that Elissa Slotkin, my friend, has served in the national security area for many, many years. Donald Trump, in the longest speech in US history for a joint address to Congress never even mentioned veterans issues. And we know that Trump's chaos and firing federal employees indiscriminately is particularly harming veterans because about one in four federal employees are veterans themselves, and his cuts to Medicaid is gonna harm veterans because one in ten veterans rely on Medicaid. And so Donald Trump's actions are not only harming our economy, they're harming our nation's veterans and our national security.
20:03
When you say follow the law, very quickly, Congressman, you mean in terms of the cuts that we are seeing carried out by Elon Musk? Is that what you're referring to?
20:13
I'm saying if Congress says, "We're gonna fund the Department of Education," we can't have Donald Trump saying, "You know, I'm just gonna dismantle this department and not apply the law and not fund it." He cannot do that. He cannot take agencies that Congress has established, such as USAID, and simply dismantle that. And by the way, the US Supreme Court just ruled against the Trump administration, saying he can't just freeze, uh, all this funding, uh, to USAID. So I need Donald Trump to simply say he's gonna follow the law. Otherwise, it's really hard for Democrats to support, uh, any appropriations bills if we have no assurance that the administration is going to treat them not just as recommendations, but actually as law.
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36:45
Yeah.
36:45
... right, that could be elected with judgment or temperament issues, or maybe they simply go to advanced age and get Alzheimer's.
36:54
Mm.
36:55
Right? Or- or some other, uh, sort of, uh, issue. That's why we can't have a system where there's so little checks and balances.

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